Summary
In a guest editorial published by PennLive, Cumberland County Democratic Party chair Matt Roan called for Senator John Fetterman’s resignation.
He accused Fetterman of abandoning Democratic values and aligning with Republicans and Trump.
Roan criticized Fetterman’s votes to confirm Trump ally Pam Bondi as attorney general and support a GOP-backed funding bill, as well as his pro-Israel stance and backing of immigration restrictions.
Speculation about Fetterman switching parties intensified after his meeting with Trump, but he denied plans to become a Republican, insisting he remains committed to Democratic priorities.
Fetterman is a jagoff. Western PA disowns you, you Reading prick.
TIL. I’ve been hearing this since I was a kid and could never understand the meaning and whether it was dirty. Thanks for sharing.
Indeed he’s a jagoff.
Yeah, I had no idea this was a Pennsylvania thing. I’ve called people a jagoff before lol
I’d call it a rustbelt thing, but it originates towards Pittsburgh.
Sometimes you get them jaggers stuck to your clothes when doing yard work or they get stuck to the dog. You never get jagged by wild blackberries or a fence? I’m just jaggin’.
The accent for people who want to hear it. [2]
Edit: Also, I don’t know if it’s still like this, but you could tell where the money in the state was going growing up because from Pittsburgh to Harrisburg the roads were shit, then magically they got a lot nicer from Harrisburg to Philly. He’s from the nice side of the state and came to the underfunded side via AmeriCorps and is now acting like every other PA politican. Fuck this dude. His eggs are scrambled.
Haha, this brings back lots of memories, let me tell you…
I’m from the Philly area, our roads are pretty shitty, if yours are even worse that’s really saying something. You can just about tell by feel the moment you cross the state border into NJ
I can’t believe I gave that sack of shit $100
This silver spoon baby convinced the poor he was an every man with a hoodie and shorts and took their money
We burned our Fetterman shirts and broke the coffee mug, that we bought to support this idiot.
As much as I understand and support the sentiment, destroying things that are still functional is a very republican action.
Perhaps deface the mugs (sharpie marks generally survive dishwashers and can be reapplied later for new fun mustaches) and turn the shirts into dishrags or washcloths. (especially fun since in languages with gendered nouns, like German for example, a shirt is a neutral gender and a washcloth is masculine, thus making this really transformational.)
We need a recall mechanism in PA for this bullshit.
We should elect parties, not people. I’m sure it would cause other issues, but it would also solve the issue of being unsatisfied with the senator. Recall him right now and we have to have another election. I don’t trust PA to make the right decision.
Yeah but if you let parties run everything you end up with things like the DNC running Hilary instead of Bernie. And so called super delegates. So I’m not convinced that’s a good solution either.
We got Hillary anyway though.
When I think about this, I always remember this CGP Grey video that discussed this concept. It makes so much more sense than the way we do it. Also, removing a politician for not living up to expectations shouldn’t be the end of the world for the party. Instead it should be a way to the party to earn respect.
Edit: correct YouTube link
Well you’d get Hillary in 2008 instead of Obama - which might not have been terrible. Could she have beat McCain? Probably.
Grey’s animal kingdom election series is gold.
It really made me see things differently. But also feel a little hopeless that we will probably never have a fair system. There’s too much money keeping the crappy system alive.
Or, you know, single party states as the party no longer needs to run individuals and has zero interest in sharing power.
He absolutely should
I’m in Pittsburgh if anyone is down to organize, sorry I suck at taking initiative 😅
Honestly, I’d love to protest with you because Iive relatively close to the city, but I getike no PTO and can’t afford to take time off. 💀
I’m not too familiar with his record before running for the Senate, I’m afraid, but, presuming it was sufficiently different that people had wanted to vote for him and no one had been sounding the alarm, part of me wonders if something had happenned when he had his stroke.
It’s, obviously, not a given but brain damage can cause personality changes. I have very little evidence beyond speculation but I do wonder, from time to time.
Brain damage leads to conservative values. That should be pretty obvious by now. That’s why conservative leaders are against environmental and consumer regulations. More lead, more PFAS, more conservatives.
There was a guy I knew in high school, he was never the brightest bulb, but he had the rare gift that he realized that he was kind of an idiot and would listen to and try to learn from people that knew more about something than he did. Overall a pretty nice guy, I don’t think anyone really had anything bad to say about him, he leaned a little conservative but if you took the time to explain something from a liberal point of view you could definitely get him to change his mind sometimes.
I mostly lost track of him after I graduated, I heard somewhere through the grapevine that he had died, turns out those rumors were somewhat exaggerated, but he did get a pretty significant brain injury, spent a brief time in a coma, had some surgeries, nice scar on his head.
Next time I ran into him a few years later, he had taken a pretty weird turn into some paranoid bullshit, talking about some apocalypse or civil war that he seemed sure was coming and how he was learning to make his own arrows so he could keep hunting when ammo ran out.
This was a few years before Trump’s first term, I can only imagine he’s spiraled further into crazytown since then.
TBH, he might turn out to be right and we’ll be begging him to teach us his ways.
Studies have proven that true.
He tricked us when he was mayor of Braddock Pa and when he was lieutenant governor. I hope people aren’t stupid enough to vote for him again, but I wouldn’t be surprised if he switched parties and won as a repug.
I feel so vindicated, I never bought this silver spoon baby’s Everyman schtick and would get downvoted to hell for calling him out. “Look at me im wearing a hoodie in the house!” All a distraction. He was always one of them, never one of us.
He did used to do shit like this https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/ncna1256162
They should gift him all the removed flags as toilet paper, since that’s how he might as well be using them now.
Him and about 3/4 of the rest of them should just fuck off to the nazi party. And I include Schumer and Jeffries in that.
Not only betraying his constituents but also a big israel shill
Only two years too late! Great job everyone
I mean, I’d still take him over Dr. Fucking Oz.
Oh for sure, this leads us back to the real issue at hand which is democrats choosing the most unfit, corrupt, or republican candidate they can run in any election that is being used as a “referendum on extremism” see henry cuellar in Texas for this same exact scenario in even more explicit terms
Fetterman should’ve never been allowed in the party. If they truly believed in progressive values instead of optics and looking “moderate” someone with actual, tangible values would have been chosen to run. Anyone with the party machinery to run oppo research on fetterman should have said then and there that he has proven himself antithetical to progressivism. His behaviors both personally and in office are incompatible with the stated desires of the people he was chosen to represent AND his own claimed political beliefs. They just chose to keep it hidden and lean into “common sense.”
There are plenty of people in Philly that could have blown the doors off dr oz and actually delivered for the state in congress. Not that Fetterman was worse than dr oz, he was just the literal next worst option there was. THAT is why he got the campaign money and not anyone who was going to argue against the DNC.
Everyone let themselves be fooled into believing the dems were trying to move the needle. It would have made no difference if they just said “this guy is basically a republican but you’re gonna have to vote him in bc the other option is dr oz.” But they decided it would look better if he campaigned as a progressive and then betrayed that constituency once in office.
Watch the NYC mayoral race closely, you see the same happening again. Propping up a proven sexual abuser with the money and media coverage and organizing power from the Democrat institutions just to destroy the campaign of a open socialist running to pass laws to benefit real new york workers. All because Cuomo would be running against Eric adams in an almost guaranteed loss for adams. Its disgusting. This is how fascism won.
Idk what to do but call it out for what it is. We have to build an entirely separate power structure for real candidates like Zohran to make sure people like us have the backing to win these races against democrats in their own strongholds. All the political power and will is unified against allowing truly progressive candidates to run. Until there is a new national workers party fundraising for working class candidates we won’t see anything but more neoliberal-centrist “progressives” who vote to continue the orphan crushing machine out of loyalty to the structure and utter lack of loyalty to any constituency.
Sorry for the rant, I’m just attempting to make a record of my frantic screams as water fills the lower decks
Also I mean, most of the anti-Fetterman sentiment is pure hindsight. There were clues that he was a douchebag, but he did well to present himself as progressive and relatable. It’s not like most people expected the heel turn. I, for one, was very happy to see someone other than a boring corporate Democrat as the front runner.
Exactly, that’s my whole point. We got duped because we really let ourselves believe the candidate the DNC chose was going to actually be progressive. Hindsight shows we were wrong to believe in his campaign but it also shows the democratic party knew full well what they were doing when they put the establishment behind his campaign specifically
In the fervour of trying to ensure an absolute crank like Dr. Oz wasn’t allowed to hold office we all collectively bet the house on democrats meeting the moment and putting forward a progressive. In reality, they saw the moment for what it was and used that opportunity to get a slam dunk institutional stooge into a seat for 6 years.
The problem isn’t that we were duped, the problem is that we were made to believe anything other than a heel turn was the desired outcome. He was selected specifically for his ability to fake being progressive and have zero shame when confronted about it.
We cant take their word for it anymore, if your candidate isn’t openly a socialist they might as well be a republican. Until our institutions work for us we cannot rely on them to do the work to get there. Go look at the zohran mamdani campaign and what they are advocating for to see what an actually progressive campaign looks like so you don’t get duped ever again. If your candidate doesn’t talk like THIS you are being lied to about their beliefs.
Bonafide useless turd
After watching/listening to this, I think Pennsylvanian Democrats just hoodwinked themselves (and the rest of America), looking for any alternative to Doc Oz
Cash me outside John.
I’m gonna rap battle you so hard, and make your blood boil, you’ll have another stoke again. Then I’ll be in the headlines, Philly Man defeats a sitting US Senator via rap battle. I win the Dem special primary by unanimity because nobody dares to go against me.
There, me, Senator from PA (Class III seat), serving until 2029 (but I might run again 😉)
(Am I being ridiculous? Well the simulation broke down so this Philly Man is the best you get as champion of Democracy, sorry 😁)
Philly brother here, you got my vote, cuz!
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Fetterman was a good candidate, until his stroke. Studies have demonstrated that stokes often lead people to adopt conservative values, and that seems to have happened to Fetterman.
However, we should pump the brakes on his resignation. He is still a Democrat, and he adds to the close minority that Democrats have. He fulfills a similar role as Manchin did in the Senate. He may support the Republicans now and then, but he still gave the Dems the majority, which kept the Dems in charge of all committees, including investigative committees.
The Dems have the possibility of gaining the majority in Congress with just a few more seats. Mike Waltz’ seat is up for grabs in Florida, and it was considered a safe Republican seat, but it is being challenged by Josh Weill, a Dem who is running a vicious Republican style campaign, and the Reps are extremely worried it might flip. Weill has raised 10x the money of his generally disliked Republican opponent, and still has about 10x the money on hand for the final stretch (April 1 is the election), versus about $100K for the Rep. Weill commercials, which look and sound like Republican attack ads, and never mention that Weill is a Democrat, are flooding thebairwaves, with very little response from the opponent, whose entire campaign is based on supporting HitlerPig. A few flips like that over the next year or so, and the Dems might get the majority.
Of course, Weill is still at the mercy of the Florida election system, which is fully rigged. I doubt DeSantis will let Weill win. Sorry to piss on the parade.
The bottom line is that Pennsylvania is a bright purple state, and very unpredictable. If Fetterman resigns, he might well be replaced by Republican, putting a Dem majority even further away.
Apparently, you’re joining the jagoff pride parade with him.
You, barneypiccolo, appear to be a jagoff.
Might well be replaced by a Republican? Doubtful.
Pennsylvania will not be fooled again.
Whatever, you P-burgers have always been a weird bunch, even from a Cleveland perspective.
