• ERROR: Earth.exe has crashed@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    4 months ago

    Did you know, chimps don’t have remote killing drones, armored vehicles, or nuclear weapons.

    Well human do, and its usually not the average person that have posession of those things.

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      4 months ago

      Average military pay is like 2100/month so I guess if the dudes in charge of the nukes/drones/tanks decide to stop getting cucked by business interests it would probably be fine.

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          4 months ago

          That doesn’t always happen, look at the massacres in South Korea before the end of the dictatorship.

          The numbers on wikipedia are lower than actual numbers as questioning them could literally get you executed until the 90s. For example the official number for the Gwangju uprising is 165, but the city recorded an extra 2300 deaths above historical averages for May. That doesn’t include thousands who were arrested, many of whom sentenced to death.

          The government ordered the soldiers to shoot the protesters, and they did, and hardly anyone knows about it today.

          Indonesia is also worth looking at.

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    4 months ago

    If I had the opportunity for some street justice on a billionaire I wouldnt fucking hesitate. That said, it would change jack shit. His wealth just passes to the next asshole.

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      4 months ago

      In a hypothetical world where billionaires cannot go outside a security perimeter for fear of their lives, how soon would we see people refusing the inheritance or donating massive portions?

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        4 months ago

        You just assume that everyone rich would seem rich. If i got billions noone would know. Not everyone needs gargantuan houses and excessively expensive cars and yachts. I would still live in a moderatly tiny house because i don’t like housework AND don’t like strangers in my house doing that. In fact i just had billions. Nothing in my life would change. I’d be safe in your world 😁

        Also what for? To show others i have money? So i could never ever trust a person again? Not everyone wants to be a rockstar. Only those whose personalities are so undeveloped that they need the constant ego-strokes from random strangers to even feel something. I just feel pity for jokes like elon musk.

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          4 months ago

          True, but you’d need to really stay under the radar in such a world. Any point of contact where someone else knows you have that money would put you at risk. And those can be generated just by getting the money in the first place.

          For the record I think it would be a terrible world. Historically, mob violence often kills innocent people, all it would take would be an accusation. And one person’s poverty is another person’s wealth. They wouldn’t exactly stop to ask about the economically defined classes. It would be more like, “Dave got a luxury car, I wonder how much money he’s hiding…”

          And also, I think I would be someone giving it away as fast as possible. I’m like you, after a couple creature comforts and securing the rest of my life, there’s no more need for the money. It’s not like I can take it with me.

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      4 months ago

      This is honestly the reason why I don’t think we can achieve a successful uprising anymore. Probably not a nuke, but drones definitely could and would be used to tear through even the largest of mobs if they formed today. Marie Antoinette would be happily eating her cake watching her people get mowed down by autonomous turrets if the French revolution happened today.

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        4 months ago

        IMO we are probably on the brink of the last possible society that can on a technical level. I would say, nukes, and even drone bombs etc… are unlikely to be utilized, simply due to collateral damage, infrastructure damage etc…

        However, things like the boston dynamics spot etc… We’re probably a decade away from when 1 person can control an army of perfectly loyal soldiers.

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          4 months ago

          Unless they’re maintaining the software themselves, there’s no such thing as perfectly loyal. In the past the revolutionaries needed to capture the armory, now they need to capture / subvert the servers / programmers.

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            4 months ago

            It’s true… but with all things it’s a matter of quantity of people you need to be loyal… IE one commander who agrees with the cause, vs 100 soldiers that could talk about it.

            Plus, it’s far easier to grow a concience on the field looking in the eyes of the children you are murdering, vs sitting in a computer or robot lab having no “need to know” what these robots do when they leave your office