You have 50mil eligible voters who haven’t even registered. You have another 40 million registered voters that didn’t bother to show.
Yes, voter apathy is a problem. Running uninspiring candidates isn’t going to fix apathy; it will make apathy much worse.
I agree with you that AOC is the best bet America has for a better future. But the important thing is not getting the best outcome, the important thing is actually beating the Nazis.
Ain’t seein’ much evidence of anyone else actually willing to oppose nazis in any way.
Are you willing to bet the future of the free world that you are right?
The last 3 elections have been against trump. We ran dull “not trump, I guess” candidates in all three. Biden only barely squeaked in and then spent four years demonstrating that democrats don’t keep their promises to anyone not named netanyahu.
If you have a more charismatic candidate than AOC, a white (conservative, naturally, since that’s all this is really about) male, name him.
And god bless him for it. If Tim Walz can win in 2028, great.
That’s no reason to hold back all women in order to hold back AOC. We have primaries for a reason (when we have primaries.) If AOC can overcome democrats’ shady bullshit meant to keep progressives out, she absolutely can win. Anyone who would never vote for AOC wasn’t going to vote for Walz, either. Unless you’re saying that centrist democrats would rather vote for fascism or stay home than vote for a progressive, for all their talk of “no matter who.”
A lot of people hate the rich people who control them, but also hate women and minorities 🤷♂️
So whats important here, do you want their votes and be able to kick the PayPal Mafia out of the oval office, or do you care more about signalling to America that women can do it too?
So whats important here, do you want their votes and be able to kick the PayPal Mafia out of the oval office, or do you care more about signalling to America that women can do it too?
That’s a false choice, as well as a misrepresentation of everything I’ve said.
If women are as incapable of winning as centrists suddenly and conveniently believe they are the instant someone brings up AOC, then you have nothing to worry about. If she can’t win the general, she definitely won’t be able to get through the primaries. democratic party leadership can’t fuck with the general election like they can with primaries.
They are. I just don’t trust the American people even a little, to make the best choice. So i think running the best candidate (which we agree that AOC is) will most likely be yet another political suicide for the democrats.
America really needs a left wing party, instead of a left wing faction in the least right-wing party. But the system is built so any vote for third party is just wasted, and basically amounts to a vote for the fascists 🤷♂️
This is why i say AOC should focus on becoming minority leader in the Senate. They need to kick out the right wingers from the democratic party first, and its by then that president becomes much more likely.
Please don’t. Dude, my Prime Minister is a woman, i don’t really care what you think. But your people have proven again and again to be bigots, so please don’t continue to be so focused on inclusion for everyone that you neglect the part where you dont fucking lose your government to the Nazis, like wtf?
Or are you saying it is impossible to find a leftists old white man? Because your Presidents have to be old white men, please realize that.
Yes, voter apathy is a problem. Running uninspiring candidates isn’t going to fix apathy; it will make apathy much worse.
Ain’t seein’ much evidence of anyone else actually willing to oppose nazis in any way.
The last 3 elections have been against trump. We ran dull “not trump, I guess” candidates in all three. Biden only barely squeaked in and then spent four years demonstrating that democrats don’t keep their promises to anyone not named netanyahu.
If you have a more charismatic candidate than AOC, a white (conservative, naturally, since that’s all this is really about) male, name him.
Tim Walz is literally doing Town Hall meeting in Republican cities where they have stopped doing official town hall meetings.
And god bless him for it. If Tim Walz can win in 2028, great.
That’s no reason to hold back all women in order to hold back AOC. We have primaries for a reason (when we have primaries.) If AOC can overcome democrats’ shady bullshit meant to keep progressives out, she absolutely can win. Anyone who would never vote for AOC wasn’t going to vote for Walz, either. Unless you’re saying that centrist democrats would rather vote for fascism or stay home than vote for a progressive, for all their talk of “no matter who.”
A lot of people hate the rich people who control them, but also hate women and minorities 🤷♂️
So whats important here, do you want their votes and be able to kick the PayPal Mafia out of the oval office, or do you care more about signalling to America that women can do it too?
Its time to choose your enemies.
That’s a false choice, as well as a misrepresentation of everything I’ve said.
If women are as incapable of winning as centrists suddenly and conveniently believe they are the instant someone brings up AOC, then you have nothing to worry about. If she can’t win the general, she definitely won’t be able to get through the primaries. democratic party leadership can’t fuck with the general election like they can with primaries.
Mine are to my right. Are yours?
They are. I just don’t trust the American people even a little, to make the best choice. So i think running the best candidate (which we agree that AOC is) will most likely be yet another political suicide for the democrats.
America really needs a left wing party, instead of a left wing faction in the least right-wing party. But the system is built so any vote for third party is just wasted, and basically amounts to a vote for the fascists 🤷♂️
This is why i say AOC should focus on becoming minority leader in the Senate. They need to kick out the right wingers from the democratic party first, and its by then that president becomes much more likely.
How convenient that the answer is always to run a centrist.
Please don’t. Dude, my Prime Minister is a woman, i don’t really care what you think. But your people have proven again and again to be bigots, so please don’t continue to be so focused on inclusion for everyone that you neglect the part where you dont fucking lose your government to the Nazis, like wtf?
Or are you saying it is impossible to find a leftists old white man? Because your Presidents have to be old white men, please realize that.
By not wanting to vote for centrists.
I’m saying it’s impossible to find a progressive without a convenient excuse popping up for why they can’t run.