• Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world
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    13 hours ago

    So whats important here, do you want their votes and be able to kick the PayPal Mafia out of the oval office, or do you care more about signalling to America that women can do it too?

    That’s a false choice, as well as a misrepresentation of everything I’ve said.

    If women are as incapable of winning as centrists suddenly and conveniently believe they are the instant someone brings up AOC, then you have nothing to worry about. If she can’t win the general, she definitely won’t be able to get through the primaries. democratic party leadership can’t fuck with the general election like they can with primaries.

    Its time to choose your enemies.

    Mine are to my right. Are yours?

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      13 hours ago

      They are. I just don’t trust the American people even a little, to make the best choice. So i think running the best candidate (which we agree that AOC is) will most likely be yet another political suicide for the democrats.

      America really needs a left wing party, instead of a left wing faction in the least right-wing party. But the system is built so any vote for third party is just wasted, and basically amounts to a vote for the fascists 🤷‍♂️

      This is why i say AOC should focus on becoming minority leader in the Senate. They need to kick out the right wingers from the democratic party first, and its by then that president becomes much more likely.

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          10 hours ago

          Please don’t. Dude, my Prime Minister is a woman, i don’t really care what you think. But your people have proven again and again to be bigots, so please don’t continue to be so focused on inclusion for everyone that you neglect the part where you dont fucking lose your government to the Nazis, like wtf?

          Or are you saying it is impossible to find a leftists old white man? Because your Presidents have to be old white men, please realize that.

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            8 hours ago

            But your people have proven again and again to be bigots

            By not wanting to vote for centrists.

            Or are you saying it is impossible to find a leftists old white man?

            I’m saying it’s impossible to find a progressive without a convenient excuse popping up for why they can’t run.

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              If you honestly believe that the only reason Americans didn’t vote for Harris was that she was too moderate, i don’t know what to tell you man, that sounds almost utopic in my ears, but i just don’t trust you people that much.

              I believe that accounts for maybe 25% of the people who didn’t vote for her, another 25% was racism, another 25% was sexism and the last 25% decided than an 80 year old war in Palestine suddenly should decide whether or not the fascists got control of the largest military in the world. Fucking dumb.

              But maybe you have more correct polls for this, i am willing to be corrected.

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                4 hours ago

                If you honestly believe that the only reason Americans didn’t vote for Harris was that she was too moderate, i don’t know what to tell you man, that sounds almost utopic in my ears, but i just don’t trust you people that much.

                Yeah, I get it. You think we’re all sexists and therefore you dictate that women shouldn’t be allowed to run for president.

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                  3 hours ago

                  Dictate 🤣 how tf can i dictate anything. I just strongly advice that you focus more on taking back your country from the Nazis before they destroy the fucking world, than you do on social inclusion of minority groups. You’ve tried it and it is costing the entire world heavily. Get your shit together.

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                    1 hour ago

                    Right. Exclude women because the most popular progressive is a woman and absolutely no other reason.