• Zombie-Mantis@lemmy.world
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    It’s the difference between the culinary use of the word and the biological use of the word. I thought we already figured that out?

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    I know this is probably a repost but the self-censorship is super annoying and has entered the lexicon in ways that can permanently damage human communication as a whole.

    Yeah sure censor stuff from kid shows but we’re at the point where “unalive” and “pdf file” are being used as code words. Everyone knows what they mean, even the censors.

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      It’s annoying that its driven by ad revenues, and made more dumb by the fact that if everyone can decode it, then they’re still advertising over sex and violence. So the whole endeavor is pointless.

      But I don’t think it will cause any harm. Humans have been using slang, code, and memetic language to obscure meaning from others and identify their in-crowds since the dawn of human language. Some of it is dumber than others, but it won’t cause any harm.

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      There is absolutely no chance that this idiotic self censorship can permanently damage human communication.

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      100% agree, we live in a 1984 age.

      Also, using stupid words such as unalive doesn’t make any sense because the algorithm of social media companies knows exactly what it means.

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        Its coming from Tiktok. Bytedance has heavy word censorship and if one of your comments or videos was flagged as inappropriate and had one of those words your account would be automatically suspended for review.

        So a lot of normal westerm words got flagged. Kill. Dead. Any word related to sex. Hole. (Lol) basically every curse word.

        Then there are gray words like Pedophile where people think it changes the algorithm to show your videos less if they contain them, but no one has any proof from what I can tell.

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      It’s also extremely weird because people often just default to the “hidden meaning” completely ignoring context. There were so many instances where I was being shouted at for writing “CP” on the Cyberpunk subreddit, it was just weird

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    In terms of botany, a vegetable isn’t a thing (it’s a culinary term).

    Whereas a fruit has a specific botanical term (and a culinary term).

    Not everything is “one or the other”, some things are neither (Rhubarb), and some are both (tomato).

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    The thing is too that mushrooms don’t even cook like vegetables or even like a protein or anything. So not only are they not botanically vegetables, they aren’t even culinarily vegetables either.

    Also if you don’t like mushrooms because of the texture, you’re probably cooking your mushrooms wrong.

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      Also if you don’t like mushrooms because of the texture,

      I think mushrooms get a bad rap. People talk about the dirt they’re in being grown in feces, like it’s any different than every other crop that’s grown. Potatoes are grown up close and personal in soil too and soil isn’t clean :)

      We might find there’s a flavor component like cilantro that some can taste. Or maybe they just don’t like the idea of the grown in soil and hard to clean, or maybe they don’t like that we’re eating the repuductive organs.

      my brother-in-law hates them, but loves my mashed potato dish that loaded down. I just reduce mushrooms, garlic, and onions in butter until they’re about to start to get firm then blitz them to slightly chunky gravy, stir that back into refrigerated looosely smashed potatoes, with some soft butter and a little chicken bone broth. When i’m done the flavor is still there, but it’s a background note to the potato/butter/chicken

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      I just think mushrooms taste like shit, meh at best, not a texture thing.

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        I mean there’s only hundreds of them, you have tried them all right?

        It’s like saying I don’t like all meat because you dislike snake jerky.

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        Is that just the normal ones you find at the grocery store, or have you tried other types? I think oyster mushrooms are really good when you fry them until they are crispy. Lion’s mane is really good too, I like to make vegan pulled pork with them. The flavor of some foraged ones are also amazing like chantarell and black trumpets. Chicken of the woods also tastes and kinda feels like lemony dry chicken. There’s soooo many great mushrooms

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          Have tried all the ones you mentioned and many more over my years, I grew up amongst old world hippies, have eaten many a mushroom, wish I had the taste for them, just don’t really. Some are def better than others, but overall I find them very meh

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    Vegetables aren’t real. They made up the classification just to sell things that aren’t fruits.

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    Yeah I knew mushrooms were shady shit since when they snuck in with the badgers. Nobody batted an eye back then and look at where we are now.

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    I have a simple flowchart to determine what is or isn’t a veggie:

    > Can I eat it? -> Yes -> Does it come from an animal? -> No = Vegetable

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    vegetable fruit discourse is fucking stupid. just call’em edibles if we’re not getting into the scientifically proven specifics.