• Sc00ter@lemm.ee
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    My wife is one of these consumers. She shes all these influencers pushing working out products and she uses everything she can get her hands on. Then she wonders why when she trains for, and runs a full marathon, she doesnt lose any weight. Well you take thousands of calories of supplements… just run

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      Yeah you can’t run off a bad diet, you do need to make sure you are getting enough protein aligned with your goals, and some fats, but outside of that, you just need to eat less than you burn.

      Running might help increase the deficit a bit, or give you some extra food, but you’re probably going to struggle to cover thousands of additional calories.

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        And now they’re pointing at that guy who was taking in absurd amounts of calories from meat per day, because they don’t realize he had a nutritional deficiency that meant most of it wasn’t getting processed.

        You can do a similar thing on rice, as it happens, because rice doesn’t contain enough B1 and you develop beriberi.

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            It would depend quite a lot on what meats he was eating and in particular if he was incorporating organ meats, but in general to breakdown protein and fat you need magnesium, potassium, and vitamins B and D.

            There’s also the fact that your pancreas can only create so much lipase and protease in a day. It doesn’t matter what you do, there’s going to be a maximum amount of fat and protein your body can absorb.

            In Butter Boy’s case he (a Florida Man) was literally excreting cholesterol through his skin.

            I will give him this, though, people with beriberi can literally starve to death while eating the same amount of calories in carbs because they can’t break down the carbs at all after a point. Meat and dairy has enough nutrients that you’ll be functional until your heart explodes.

            Or to put it another way, if you need 5 units of magnesium/D/B/whatever to process 2,000 calories of your butter and meat diet but you only get 2.5 from the diet you can “solve” the deficiency by eating 4k and excreting the other 2,000. Traditionally, or through your eyes, whatever works.

            Compare that to needing 5 units of B1 to break down 2k of white rice but only getting .5 units from the rice or whatever (you’d have been fine in B1 from brown rice btw)

            That’s… Not really a good explanation but it explains the basic principle.

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        The short version of that: it’s nearly impossible to out exercise poor diet but much less difficult to out diet poor exercise. (obviously, you still need exercise, but you don’t need to train like an olympic swimmer to lose weight if you make better dietary choices)

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        running is sometimes fun (the rush you get from beat your PB) and let’s you eat things that are delicious. I’m in a perpetual calorie debt because I run so much and I’m poor 😭

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        I’m not sure supplements are ever fun … but they can help with getting enough protein if you’re lifting or an additional energy boost via creatine … protein powder can taste nice but you need to watch out for macros if it’s too delicious, I’ve never had a nice creatine.

        Or by fun do you mean preworkouts? I think there’s limits to preworkout value when what you really need for workout energy are easily digestible carbs over caffine or other cruft.