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Cake day: July 9th, 2023

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  • I don’t disagree, but fundraising emails are emails they send all the time to raise funds. They do it on a train, they do it on a plane, they do it here and there, they do it everywhere. That by itself isn’t really remarkable that they’re asking for money and the reason of the day is “let’s show trump whatever whatever”. I don’t think that proves much.

    The fact that only AOC and Bernie have made waves by holding rallies to specifically say “let’s stop this bullshit” is what’s damning the rest of them. If Harris wants another bite, she’s going to need to lead that soon and well.

    Actually, for that matter - ANYONE is going to need to lead that soon and well, and it can’t be Bernie because he said it isn’t. If it’s AOC, great, let’s see some support for her.


  • Literally nothing changed except they budged on their beliefs and got nothing in return.

    What does “budged on their beliefs” mean? That they did something they don’t believe in? Why would they do that? Is it because they do believe that voting matters and a vote for the most likely candidate to beat the fascist is worthwhile?

    And “got nothing in return” you mean their supported candidate didn’t win? I . . I don’t . . that seems really . . . dramatic. But, okay. Sorry they didn’t get a pony. I didn’t either. I did get a sticker though, that was okay.

    If you consider yourself a democrat, you probably are not a leftist.

    Contrary to the entire rest of my life, but okay if you say so.

    I’m registered democrat, I vote democrat, so do many of my friends, but that does not make us democrats or supporters of their party.

    I don’t . . . that doesn’t . . . what the fuck are you doing?

    Dem senators in the 90s voted against gay marriage.

    Yes. Assholes. Dem senators in the 90s also supported gay marriage. That’s not unusual in a political party, especially at the national level. At least it wasn’t until fascists rebranded republiQanism as they all vote in lockstep. Which, good for them. How very.

    Are those the dems you support? Who’s to know.

    No, and I know? I guess?

    I’m not a democrat and I don’t support them because they don’t support me or my comrades.

    Ah. but I thought-

    That’s fine if so, you can be a lib if that’s what you are, but leftists generally don’t “support” dems.

    Yeah there it is. A “lib”. Until last year I never heard anyone but right-wing backward-ass idiots, racists, and nutjob evangelicals use the word “lib”. Yeah, I get it, it’s supposed to be like a European liberal which is very centrist and yes there are centrists in both the Democratic and the other party.

    I’m not a centrist, unless you’re saying reason and process and understanding are centrist. But your definitions of words in general don’t seem to be ones I’d agree with.

    “Support” for example. If you’re voting for a Democrat, you’re “supporting” them. That’s - that’s what that is, so you can’t not support them unless you’re saying it’s supposed to be ironic or some kind of dark magick spellz or some shit. You can tell yourself that yoiu’re not supporting them of course, but you’d be lying to yourself.

    If you’re registered as a Democrat, you “count” - by all the bodies that do counting of Democrats - as a Democrat. I.e. you are, very literally, “a Democrat” in almost all the ways people count. Which is also strange because most states allow you to register as an Independent and still vote in primaries for either party.

    If you want to vote in the Democratic primary and the only way to do that is register as a Democrat, well, you’re a Democrat. Congratulations. But you can’t not be a Democrat if you’re registered as one unless, again, you’re just telling yourself that which is not true.

    This whole thing of “libs” and “not a democrat” and all that is just pointless because it keeps us from supporting the same person. It is, of course, traditional, and also my lifelong experience, to shit on the Democrats for whatever fucked up thing a bunch of them are doing now - politics is really, really hard to do well. Tom Daschle is one I remember hating on a lot. Probably a nice guy but really fucked up the whole Iraq War II thing.

    In the meantime, what I see from “leftists” is only - essentially complaining with no solutions offered other than “they shoudln’t do that” or armchair hot-takes that mean nothing. What I see from Democrats - in addition to their obvious failures - is policy positions, caucuses, meetings, communications, fundraising, and candidates that generally support the M4A, green new deal, funded schools, etc. that I support.

    Any other “supporters” who want to do all the things a political party needs to do well should also do them really really quickly because the midterms are on in like five minutes.





  • That, like trump, is everyone’s loss then I guess.

    Just because they’ve gone quiet doesn’t mean they’re not going to start showing up or banging on about it in 17 months (assuming everyone makes it that far).

    They had an open floor with that shit for some reason - some communities were forbidden from calling them russian trolls, although that is a relevant and plausible possibility.

    I want no excuse. This will not stand, man. Look at this nation on fire. That’s why.

    Don’t vote? STFU or explain why you’re not voting (as it happened, some were not American which - ok? Why are they in the heat of a thread about US elections weighing in on whether or not people should vote?) . Some were former felons which - absolutely understandable and also bullshit that they’re not allowed to vote.

    Most, imo, were like a lot of us at some point - 18-22, newly independent and having everything figured out and wanted to sit by and watch the normies tussle over some bullshit about voting, but with a fun, kicky socialist/communist/other “twist”. Others, just straight up tankie trolls.

    Where are they anyway? I’ve thought about scrolling back but it’s too many pages in my app so I don’t remember who was talking that shit. Where’s the mea culpas? Where’s the next time I’m getting everyone to vote-s? They still buy that shit?