Neither of you is wrong. I use those too. But needing them is a sign of a shit website for sure.

If I had to guess, the israelness. A source other than the times of Israel might get a better reception. Plenty of people right or wrongly (mostly the former) knee jerk about anything that has Israel in its name.

Booker really seems to be the real deal. From everything in his time in local politics to the Federal level. I would love to see someone more like him in leadership than Schumer.

Don’t you know? Only those that do good things to avoid eternal spiritual damnation are truly free. People that do something just because it’s right are slaves to their conscience… Or something even stupider than that I suppose.

It only exposes for those who have no idea what conservatives stand for. This is standard behavior for them.

Yep. All thanks to ya boy Putin. Seeing as you support him, especially vs Ukraine. That makes you… Pro gestapo? How does that work?

Then you work to change that before the election. Not during the election.

Keep playing checkers while they play chess and wonder why things continue to get worse. With allies like you we certainly don’t need enemies.

I’m going to go out on a limb here and say. Continue acting childish while refusing to acknowledge your own role in this fiasco?

There was only ever going to be a Democrat or Republican president in this election. Useful tools like yourself made such a big noise around it that you manage to actually hurt your own cause. Drowning out much of the Articles news and talk about Trump being a literal actual fascist. And driving news coverage more about the Democrats. Which should I point out would not be doing this if they were in office. For all their problems.

You accusing others of keeping their head in the sand uninformed is hilarious. And massively cringe.

Her predecessors didn’t do that. They were literally using Hotmail and Gmail. Making their performative outrage even more absurd.

Clinton’s server wasn’t strictly to the standards of regulation and laws. But it wasn’t a fucking public email server hosting your grandmother’s Viagra spam.

Again with the arguments I never made. It’s not about what you’re saying. It’s about your behavior. You’re behaving just like them. There are absolutely some of them that are lost. Just like you are a lost cause. But there are some that can be reached if we simply take the time.

You know what a lot of historians would also tell you. They weren’t hardcore ideologically aligned. They were responsible for their own actions. But they weren’t predestined to be monsters. But if we consign them to being monsters there’s no better way to make sure they absolutely are monsters.

And like seriously friend, I have no idea who you’re debating against. It isn’t me. I’ve not made any of these claims or statements that you are attacking. And I’m not sure what your goal or objective is beyond looking foolish or overzealously radicalized? But that being the case, mission accomplished? You are honestly behaving as bad as many of the people you are railing against.

No they’re still responsible for their actions. No one’s asking you to absolve them. Just not crucify them. I had a similar discussion with a loved one who saw the very same thing and was repulsed by it initially. But ultimately voted for trump in 2024 The repetition of propaganda is very powerful. It can make you disbelieve your eyes and ears. Anyone not just them. But they are going to have to live with it now. However bringing them to our side. Having them fight along with us. Despite their sins. Would be far more preferable than facing them and the actual fascists.

The people of Nazi Germany weren’t monsters. Though they enabled and even did monstrous things at the behest of monsters. The least we could do is not make it easier for the actual monsters to do this again. Offer those “unclean” an opportunity to escape the path they’ve set themselves on and possibly do something to remedy it. If they still refuse then it’s on them and whatever God they’ve failed.

Part of the most powerful aspects of propaganda is repetition. If anything they watched touched on it. It was minimal, and framed with targeting “others”. Then countered with 10x other praise and positive coverage. To allay their fears. It’s how propaganda works. And we would be foolish to think that we are immune to it ourselves. We just have to take our openings to break through the propaganda where we can find them.

Realistically you can only deprogram the ones that are open to it. And the best way to do that honestly is by listening and treating them like adults. Holding back on ridicule Etc. Asking questions about their beliefs that they themselves have never asked. That if they honestly look into what expose the Sham they’ve allowed themselves to be victims of.

They’re convinced that there’s an immigrant crime wave. There isn’t we know there isn’t there’s no data to support that claim. But don’t just shout that at them and dismiss them out of hand. Ask them to go Source information on that. Not from drudge Breitbart or Fox news. From an actual law enforcement source that is required to be truthful and accurate. Similarly they are convinced that all government waste and fraud occurs with entitlements. Which again is often the furthest thing from the truth. Again we have plenty of information and numbers to show that most waste happens in defense spending Etc. That generally entitlements while not perfect are some of the lowest fraud. Because of all the bullshit Hoops that have been put in place to hurt minorities and vulnerable people. Again don’t dismiss it outright or shout them down. Ask them to cite numbers from the organization’s involved to confirm their beliefs.

If they are honest, sincere, they will struggle and flounder. Even then don’t admonish or shout them down for being wrong. Follow up with more questions such as if you can’t find evidence of your beliefs. Maybe someone’s been lying to you and what you’ve been told isn’t true. Even if you do not leave there with them converted. You’ve planted the seed that might break them free. That’s about the only deprogramming the average person will be able to do.

There is still silent generation out there kicking. Hell a lot of them are serving in federal government. You’d be surprised. And while they would be more than fine screwing over xers like myself. They will try to generally take care of their power base. Which has traditionally been the Boomers. They are the ones that fell Hook Line and Sinker for that morning in America bullshit.

Both are absolutely things worth doing. With a lot of overlap ironically. Though it’s going to be some time till any other generation surpasses the boomers etc. Still another decade or two. Definitely a bit early to write them off.

You certainly won’t save any if you don’t try. Personally I have saved a few. It’s not easy. And there’s definitely some work to put in. But moments of heavy cognitive dissonance like this. Are the perfect time to reach out and put in the work.

Just gonna keep putting this out there. All of us, by just being here aren’t average or normal people. They are. And while it can be fun and cathartic to ridicule them. Local news papers everywhere have gone bust. Local television stations across the country were struggling and swept up like a lot of AM radio stations. Into a national propaganda sphere. Cocooning these people in a sealed misinformation bubble.

It doesn’t matter that the facts are available on the internet. Lots of people still live their lives without it. Even then, there’s just as much misinformation and confirmation bias on the internet. We desperately need to find some way of reaching these people and exposing them to the lying media they rely on. Plenty of them would be up in arms and outraged if they fully understood. We need to focus on outreach to groups like this more than ridicule. Their regret may be too little too late. But ultimately something is more than nothing. Fascist groups like Sinclair will get us all killed if we don’t.

Chances are very high.

This is the most likely answer. Yes it would have been good to have inside access to the fascist War plan. Although we already know most of it just by virtue of them being fascists. But the fascists would have 100% come after him his family the company he works for etc etc etc once they realized their mistake. Charging him with Espionage and all sorts of other things. Making them disappear. Instead he gets to look like the good guy being responsible while pointing out the well known incompetence of fascists. Hurting them the one place that actually hurts, their image.