Sec. 2. Closing the Department of Education and Returning Authority to the States. (a) The Secretary of Education shall, to the maximum extent appropriate and permitted by law, take all necessary steps to facilitate the closure of the Department of Education and return authority over education to the States and local communities while ensuring the effective and uninterrupted delivery of services, programs, and benefits on which Americans rely.

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    It turns out the ones indoctrinating the kids have been the conservatives all along.

    Fuck school choice vouchers.

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      And the voucher / charter system is exactly what evangelicals (sorry, christofascists) want, because it strengthens their Western civilization (sorry, white nationalism).

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      My mom is a school counselor at a tiny school in a tiny town in Montana. There is no way the school stays open. Or 90% of our public schools for that matter. Part of me wants to tell her “I told you so” but generally it just sucks so bad I don’t have the energy

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    The Department of Education currently manages a student loan debt portfolio of more than $1.6 trillion.  This means the Federal student aid program is roughly the size of one of the Nation’s largest banks, Wells Fargo.  But although Wells Fargo has more than 200,000 employees, the Department of Education has fewer than 1,500 in its Office of Federal Student Aid.  The Department of Education is not a bank, and it must return bank functions to an entity equipped to serve America’s students.

    Move student loans to private banks! There it is.

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      so what im hearing is the DoE was way more efficent, and deserved additional funding, right?

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      What I understand is that they are more efficient, and loans aren’t even it’s core business…

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      Depending on where you go they long have been. As a Canadian the difference between our countries is jarring as soon as you step off the beaten path.

      Edit - I wanted to elaborate for those not in the know. I grew up lower middle class in Canada and have been to many smaller areas in America over the years. The poor in Canada still have education and healthcare covered by the state. Poor people are easily distinguishable but at the same time they are very much the same as everyone else.

      In Canada, you take the wrong turn and you’re going to be met by a friendly stranger who will help you and point you in the right direction. In America, you take the wrong turn and you’re Ned Beatty in Deliverance.

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        The true stereotype isn’t that Canadians are overly nice. The true stereotype is that Americans are overly hateful.

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      Fun fact. The United States is and always will be 1st world by definition. The 'Three Worlds ’ model comes down to the cold war where a country is aligned with the United States, the Soviet Union, or neutral. Switzerland is a 3rd world country. What people generally call the third world is better describe as ‘global south’, and they either ignore 1st and 2nd world completely or neglect the 2nd world completely and call themselves the 1st world. With regard to the United States I think you mean it’s becoming the biggest fucking piece of shit country, or you might mean it is no longer aligned with itself, plans to leave NATO, is not aligned with the soviet union, and is then by definition the largest 3rd world country.

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    If the control of education is going to return to the state level, maybe this will be the solution for the mass exodus from blue states. You want an actual good education? Don’t move to Texas.

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      One could simply live in a college dorm at a blue-state college, and then after graduation move to a dogshit red state with more affordable housing and get a remote white-collar job that pays six figures.

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    I think the practical problems with this are going to be weird. The federal Department of Education is pretty small and doesn’t set as much policy as people assume since that’s 90% done at the state and local level. The college student loan program is a huge component and could theoretically be ruined or just moved to Treasury or HHS or whatever.

    The rest is mostly grants to state and local governments and red state politicians are going to be even more pissed than blue if they kill those and put a hole in their budget that has to be filled. (Doesn’t mean they won’t do it but it’s not going to please any governors/legislators.)

    The people who will likely suffer most are special ed students since those grants are, obviously, for public schools and private/parochial schools basically never have programs for students with severe, profound, or mild autism. (I don’t know the current terms but when I was in high school, people with, for instance, autism were classified as severe, profound, mild, or moderate based on where they fell on the spectrum. Those terms are probably outdated or were unique to my school system.)

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      put a hole in their budget that has to be filled.

      Who says it has to be filled? Republicans certainly don’t.

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        In normal times, I’d say it’s complicated. There’s a lot of suburban parents who are busy and tune out the news but get very politically activated if you start fucking with schools (and student aid because that’s fucking with their money).

        Not sure if MAGA cares — I don’t know if we’ll even have elections — but don’t underestimate parents to be late to the fight but then want to gouge out a politician’s eyes.

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    The Department of Education was established by Congress. Elimination of it will take an act of Congress. This man is the biggest puppet ever.

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      Why do you think they’ll follow any sort of law or rule? Legitimate question.

      They can tell everyone they’re fired, change the locks/codes. Shutdown emails etc. and there is literally nobody that will stop them.

      Except us with weaponry.

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          This is the biggest argument to show that all that big talks about 2nd amendment was nothing but bullshit all along. US is in the middle of fascist takeover, and what good their 3 guns per human brought them? Are there any consequences for fascist dismantling the very fabric of democracy?
          Turns out the only thing all that abundance of guns is good for are school shootings and elevated crime rates, nothing else.

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            I feel like you should leave saying that for another year or 2. It’s understandable that people aren’t quite yet ready to abandon legal means.

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                  This is the whole problem. When it’s too late, it’s too late, definitionally. You can’t do shit against full on authoritarian government. You can’t do shit even if you have community. And you don’t have community, Americans hate each other more than anything, and it turned out most of them aren’t smart, so they’re ripe for the picking for every asshole imaginable to fuck them sideways.

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      I’m looking forward to Schumer whipping up enough bootlickers on the dem side to pass this in the spirit of cooperation

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        Crunchy-granola birkenstock-wearing pacifist hippie boomer Democrats versus uneducated inbred heavily armed MAGA Tea Party Republicans. Who will win?

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          The armed maggots haven’t shot at a person. They don’t know the feeling of actively looking at a neighbor, or anyone who might look like them, and intentionally destroying that human life.

          And we need to use that against them.

          Edit: I will concede I was wrong. Most are still cowards and won’t do it.

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            I don’t know if you’re trolling or just stupid; they (two registered Republican voters) tried to assassinate their own candidate, twice while he was running for election… Most of the mass shooters that got notoriety in the past decade were Republican gun owners. GTFO of here with your dumb bullshit

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    This dude is disgusting a traitor and by far one of the most vile men to walk this earth all he’s missing is millions of dead bodies like his Nazi idol.

    America is disgusting.

    Where’s all that talk about “my 2nd amendment rights” wake up America you’re a fascist country now. Use your guns before it’s too late.

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      In case you missed it: most of the people crying about their 2nd amendment rights and duties are the people that applaud this. The rest is aware that making use of their right would mean a civil war with former group.

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        No I didn’t miss that.

        But yall act like the left don’t have guns. I have guns and I’m progressive. I served this country.

        Fuck those people they are domestic terrorists. History repeats itself and we need to wake the fuck up, it sucks no one wants to fight but yet we are laying down and allowing tyranny to take hold. 249 years of the American idea being dismantled in weeks by a sediotious traitor.

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          So what do you suggest? Go shoot my brainwashed neighbor and spend life in prison for 1st degree murder? Or assassinate my far right state representative in a solid blue state and get charged with a federal crime so I can be executed?

          I’d really rather prefer continuing to do my best to educate the young members of my neighborhood so they aren’t fully guided by their parents’ conservative views. And I don’t think they’d much appreciate getting put into foster care after murdering their parents…

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    The stupidest part of all this is its going to hurt the red states the most. Blue states already have great education

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      The poorly educated are more susceptible to misinformation and manipulation. This will make the red states redder.

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        They are already red. What difference does it make?

        They will realise how fucked they are once their doctors start treating them with leeches again.

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          It continues to entrench people and keep congressional seats secured for generations.

          It’s one more deposit in their insurance plan.

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      wouldnt that mean itll affect blue states the most? they cant break whats already broken, but can surely break that which works well

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      Can conservatives even get more stupid?

      I would have thought voting for a felon rapist traitor who gives tax breaks to the wealthy over an actual prosecutor was rock bottom.

      But I guess there is no rock bottom for conservatives.

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        Sadly a lot of good people still live in red states. I’d prefer them not to suffer because of what they’re “betters” decide for them.

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    Wow.

    I looked at the articles that was expecting for that to happen today, never thought he would actually do it.

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      What in the past 3 months gave you the impression that it wouldn’t?