• givesomefucks@lemmy.worldOP
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    14 days ago

    Nowadays, I have very little respect or identification with Democrats. It feels like a failed party

    Yeah, but lots of us reached that point decades earlier…

    08 Obama was the lone bright point going back forty years of the party.

    Hell, at Carter’s time he faced a fractured party because he was moving to far right. So really it’s more like 50 years.

    Dems have lost the plot for longer than most of us have been alive, and I’m all about reducing the strength of the party as an organization.

    But we still need a DNC and state parties if only to facilitate primaries, that’s a very important function.

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      14 days ago

      What would it take to get a primary system up and running for Independents (or more accurately I guess it would have to be a proper party for a primary to make sense)?

      I assume it’s some combo of setting up the event hosting ($$$) and somehow coming up with the rules for deciding on how to operate the primary (schedule, thresholds for qualification, voting system, etc). And unfortunately I have no idea how to accomplish either.

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        14 days ago

        What would it take to get a primary system up and running for Independents (or more accurately I guess it would have to be a proper party for a primary to make sense)?

        A lot, because you’d need a national and one for each state…

        But the time to talk about this was anytime in the last fifty years up till a month ago when we got a DNC chair who will let a fair primary happen…

        You’re trying to fix a problem we literally just fixed, and in doing so likely hand control back to neoliberals.

        You want to know why it took mainstream media up until the last month to start talking shit about Dems?

        It’s because the neoliberals just lost power

        Now is the time to rally around the new Dem party, not make a new one

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          13 days ago

          But we still need a DNC and state parties if only to facilitate primaries, that’s a very important function. a month ago when we got a DNC chair who will let a fair primary happen… Now is the time to rally around the new Dem party, not make a new one

          Totally agree here with emphasis on the new part. Surge the turnout in the primaries. Without ballot access in every state it’s just not realistic to expect a 3rd party can rise up and replace the Democratic party in 2026 or 2028. Except in states with direct ballot initiatives to switch to ranked choice voting, but even that is only a solution for at best the election after getting that voted into existence.