• TheTechnician27@lemmy.world
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    Scratch a neoliberal…

    In all seriousness, capitalism is exactly why we’re here right now. (That said, technocrit is an idiot with some of the dumbest takes on this site. They blanket basically everything as fascist/fascism-adjacent, and I’m not going to say The Economist promoted this, because they didn’t.)

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      Like it or not, in the US the liberals were the primary opposition to fascists.

      Conservative and Russian created propoganda managed to convince a lot of leftists that it was more important to fight liberals than fascists.

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        Like it or not, in the US the liberals were the primary opposition to fascists.

        And they were ineffectual opposition that did more to help fascism than hurt it.

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          Ineffectual, yes. As for helping fascism, the ones who helped were the ones too busy fighting liberals to fights the fascists.

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            Being ineffectual is helping the fascists; that’s the whole goddamn problem here. When you’re fighting fascists the battlefield isn’t the polls; it’s the hearts and minds of disillusioned workers, and liberals are too weak to win that battle against fascism no matter how much you try to unite behind them.

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              Leftists are also too weak and ineffectual to win that battle. Leftists are orders of magnitude weaker than liberals in the US.

              If anything, leftists are busier driving the horizontal hostility that poisons worker solidarity and benefits fascists.

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                Leftists’ weakness in modern America is a matter of numbers and organization; it’s a situational weakness. In contrast, liberals’ weakness to fascism is a categorical weakness. No matter what you do, liberals are categorically incapable of beating fascism. Therefore pushing for unity behind liberals is a fool’s errand, as this election has shown.

                If anything, leftists are busier driving the horizontal hostility that poisons worker solidarity and benefits fascists.

                Horizonal hostility between who and who? Hatred of the Democratic elites is nothing but horizontal I’ll tell you that.

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                  Leftists’ weakness in modern America is a matter of numbers and organization; it’s a situational weakness. In contrast, liberals’ weakness to fascism is a categorical weakness.

                  This is just, “liberals need to take accountability, leftists don’t need to take accountability”.

                  Leftists not being able to beat fascists is a matter of leftists not being able to hold accountability for anything.

                  You like fighting liberals because liberals are nice and there’s no stakes. You like that liberals don’t have teeth, liberals play by the rules, liberals won’t hurt you. You’re afraid of fighting fascists, because fascists don’t believe in rules and will illegally disappear you without hesitation.

                  You hide from the bear to fight the bunny, then you whine that the bunny isn’t winning against the bear for you.