New polling conducted by Somos Votantes and the Global Strategy Group between August 26 and September 4 shows that Trump’s net approval rating among Latino voters has dropped from -11 points in February to -23 points in September.
His favorability rating has seen a similar drop, from -12 points in February to -20 points in September.
I think a lot of it comes down to news and education. Every bit of media they consume assured them that Trump was a no-nonsense tough guy who would tackle head on some of the issues that were of genuine concern to them. There are billions of dollars that go into manipulating the landscape in all kinds of ways to make sure that is all they were presented with. And so, that’s the basis they decided on. What else could they do?
Sure, you and me exist in a media landscape where that’s a laughable joke, but I don’t think you can necessarily blame them for not having lucked their way into the same places that we exist on. The white people, who were waving around signs saying “Mass Deportations Now” and then got all upset when it turned around on them, I think you can blame, but I think a lot of people of a lot of different ethnicities and backgrounds just got fooled by all the propaganda that is so polished and professional at this point.
Oh fuck that, quit letting idiots off the hook for being idiots. There was, and still is, an absurd amount of information readily available about how shitty Trump is. If the people you’re talking about cared at all they could have found it easily, but they didn’t. That’s not anyone else’s fault but theirs.
“Why don’t they just pull themselves up by their bootstraps and get educated about it”
Wikipedia is right there in a number of languages. Not asking people to do academic research, read above a 6th grade level, or leave their house.
Yeah if reading something is too high of a bar for the average person to clear then I will happily admit that my expectations of humanity are too high.
Brother listening to the man speak was too high of a bar.
Don’t be a fucking contrarian for idiots. They spend a DECADE shouting about how the liberals are trying to slander poor Donald, oh the awful things they say about him! How could they?
They chose not to accept the truth. That’s on them at this point.
But this was the first Trump presidency. They had gone through it before. They knew what was going to happen.
Attention spans are short.
You see how fast everyone totally forgot about COVID-19?
Attention spans are short is a valid explanation, but not a valid excuse to escape blame.
Oh, well, that’s OK then?
Forgot about what, now?
The right has not forgotten about Covid, they remember it as a hoax and make fun of people who got vaccinated. Comes up often when the measle outbreak hits the news.
Attention and political memory are very short, especially if you don’t closely follow and understand the things being done in the legislature.
Have memories that go back to 2016-2020
That is the thing that bothers me. EVERYONE that could have voted in 2024 was old enough to remember the first Trump term.
That’s an argument against democracy never working…
Millions of people didn’t vote for Trump,.so how come they didn’t ?
It’s a really good question. So democracy isn’t a magic bullet. Putin gets elected every term, Hitler got elected (more or less). One element of democracy actually working the way it’s supposed to is the freedom to vote, but also one element of it is subjecting the machinery that selects candidates to people’s meaningful input, one element of it is a free enough media and educational system so that people will be able to put their votes in with some understanding and knowledge behind them.
Right now, we sort of have the first, kind of, but the second and third elements the US just doesn’t have. It’s barely functioning. I think it’s not really surprising that the results we’re getting are so objectively horrifying. I just want to describe the problem in terms of how it actually developed. This whole diagnosis where “Of course the Latinos had perfect knowledge of what Trump was going to do, but they voted for him anyway, so now it’s their fault that it’s coming true after they voted for him” is just very obviously not true to me. Obviously they were fooled in some sense about it, because he planning to directly endanger them and their families’ safety, so we need to get to the bottom of how that happened and what can be done about it in the future. I do think there is some role played by, roughly speaking, “Latino culture is macho in some ways and Trump did macho messaging that appealed to them.” But saying that’s the whole way it happened (as some people are apparently) is 1,000% missing the point to me.