No doubt about it…
“I think the key to Democratic victories is to understand that you got to stand unequivocally with the working class of this country,” Sanders said. “You need an agenda that speaks to the needs of working people."
Yep
You mean when she changed her tune mid stride and went centrist?
Centrist? She campaigned with Cheney. That’s right wing.
She was at the center between fascism and conservatism.
Is, “influenced by billionaires,” a euphemism for, “she let her uber executive brother-in-law talk her into gutting any economic populism from her campaign in favor of tepid centrist policies that cost her the election and ushered in a new era of American fascism?”
I mean I’m not sure Bernie is that woke, much as I love him, but that’s pretty much the view from over here.
I disagree, but I do think he has an outdated notion of civil politics and wouldn’t make the same point in connection with her. I’m surprised he said as much about Harris, though I’m grateful if it helps dissuade the Dems from re-nominating her.
I dont know if you’ve been to reddit but there are a ton of Gavin Newsom posts. They’re probably gonna force this blue conservative down the voting publics throats.
And all i hear are crickets from the democratic party regarding replacing First-past-the-post voting in the blue states they control. The democrats will never release their hostages willingly.
Name one mainstream party in the current day world that isn’t being influenced by billionaires or their country-specific equivalents (if the country has no billionaires for instance)
Mario Party
Bowser (evil billionaire who owns multiple castles) has paid Nintendo big bucks to make games about him and include him into Mario Party.
Sorry but this is true
Some green parties considering all of their policies are conflicts of interests with billionaires?
Greens in Australia do not take donations from corporations or property developers.
https://greens.org.au/campaigns/dirty-donations
They are the third largest party and hold balance of power in the Senate.
I mean, he’s correct in that both political parties have been bought and paid for by large corporations for a long time. This shouldn’t be news, it should be plainly obvious by now.
One party is openly hostile towards the average citizen. The other puts on a friendly mask for the public but is also hostile towards the average citizen. None of them actually give a fuck about the average person. Trump is exceptionally arrogant and aggressive with his goals, but I promise he is far from the first person to have such goals or to exploit the government system for personal gain. He is the first to be so obvious about it, but it has been happening for decades, hidden under the guise of ‘security’ and other buzz words.
The news isn’t that the Democratic party is bought and paid for by the oligarchy. The news is that Bernie has stopped playing nice with the DNC.
Thank you for that take; this is the important part. Now I’d like him to get mean, please.
Without organized labor parties to call for strikes or make demands we are really stuck waiting for somebody famous (and who we trust) to say what needs to be said, and organize what needs to be organized. And it needs to happen soon. In Bernie we could trust.
This seems to be how the majority of Democrats in office are and they’ll never see themselves as wrong… They just point at Trump and say he’s what’s wrong. And yeah they’re not wrong about that but that doesn’t make them right or good either. You get stuck running for a bad candidate or a downright evil candidate. And yeah I voted for Harris. I voted for Biden and Hilary too. Id vote for a literal log of shit on the floor before I voted for Trump, but that doesn’t mean I liked the Democratic candidates or that I’m super happy with party. This country isn’t set up to make third party candidates an option… But no…I don’t think the Democrats in office will every see themselves as a problem.
Are we reddit now, posting USA Today articles like they’re a proper news source? This is /r/news behavior. Might as well start linking New York Post articles, too.
https://www.compassvermont.com/p/bernie-sanders-criticizes-harris
Thanks for doing the leg work. USA Today is slop.
@return2ozma@lemmy.world appears to either be a bot or a newly minted user from Reddit. They’re even using their Reddit Snoo as their avatar. I might just block them to avoid this idiotic content. They’re posting lots of the same.
I might just block them to avoid this idiotic content.
Ironic on your end there.
They’re a well-known, prolific, old account. They’re not a bot nor new.
Ain’t good content, though. Woof.
Just because the account is old isn’t reason to believe they aren’t entirely a bad actor.
Never liked them but try to be civil.
I mean he is right
don’t forgot all the aipac bribes she took to look the over way as children were slaughtered.
You and your single issue /s
This but no /s. “You and your single issue” was a contributing factor in getting everything worse, including the single issue you think you care about.
Keep on blaming the voters, it’s been working wonderfully so far.
By the way: I’ve never been to the USA but I’d already made up my mind about never going long before Trump’s victory in 2016.
It’s a godamn genocide there is no bigger crime against humanity then a genocide. It’s completely worth it
Ah yes, committing extra genocide will fix it!
Flawless logic buddy.
You keep supporting the same terrible two parties that support genocide so fon’t blame other for your complicity
You helped the worst of them be elected thus making genocide worse.
I didn’t , you americans who voted for the same two terrible parties are. You americans been fine with the terrible system for 160 goddamn year
in getting everything worse, including the single issue you think you care about.
People who voted for harris and trump are the only one to blame. Dems also share the responsibility for being bad at everyehing allowing trump to fool people and vote for him
It’s always amazing to me how people will blame those that couldn’t stomach voting for a pro-genocide candidate, instead of blaming the candidate for being pro-genocide.
Bernie is correct as per usual.
I mean, I voted for her, and would vote for her again any day if it meant voting against Trump, but he’s not wrong.
She’s not really unique in that aspect compared to any other mainstream Democrat vs any outsider or mainstream Republican, and that’s probably ~90% of the DNC’s problem when it comes to overcoming voter apathy.
Realistically, most people are not expecting Dems to refuse large donations, but accepting a donation should not mean that you then compromise your own values to accommodate 1% of voters on any issue. That’s not how a democracy is supposed to work. That’s just pay to play.
Its so stupid to me that we’ve now reached the point that politicians don’t even pretend to be public servants anymore. They’re just paypigs doing whatever the money wants. Used to be, a campaign donation got you a “hi how are ya” and maybe a thank you card after the election. They sent you money and it was nice of them because you needed it.
Now with kamala, she got the largest grassroots fundraising of any candidate in history and what does she do? Listen to a bunch of rich fucks who gave the maximum contribution. I bet they all voted for Trump too. She’s either the most incompetent and gullible politician in american history or the dnc are fascist collaborators. The way she turned away from every popular idea she had makes it seem like she was told to lose. Im sure its been fucking great for her brother tho.
The Dems though paint this like it’s a “necessary evil” they just have to accept all these donations from the ultra wealthy because you can’t win any other way
So the position starts off cynically pragmatic, and cynical pragmatism makes for a shitty rallying cry.
But then it doesn’t even work. They sell out to get the big money donations and then lose.
Ineffective cynical pragmatism is an even worse rallying cry.
And any time you get a Sanders or a Mamdani that shows a different path to success they go “oh sure that worked for them but it wouldn’t work anywhere else, only our cynical pragmatism works everywhere as long as you ignore all these electoral defeats”
The Dems though paint this like it’s a “necessary evil” they just have to accept all these donations from the ultra wealthy because you can’t win any other way
So the position starts off cynically pragmatic, and cynical pragmatism makes for a shitty rallying cry.
But then it doesn’t even work. They sell out to get the big money donations and then lose.
Ineffective cynical pragmatism is an even worse rallying cry.
And any time you get a Sanders or a Mamdani that shows a different path to success they go “oh sure that worked for them but it wouldn’t work anywhere else, only our cynical pragmatism works everywhere as long as you ignore all these donations from electoral defeats”
The sky will be blue
can I have an article also?
The sky’s green, idiot. I shit myself. Can I be president now?
@grok, is this true?
…. She would have been another bandaid. Just like Biden was. Out of everything that’s happening right now, why is this making the news?
This is the liberal media distraction from the Trump Epstein files. It gives us anything to read about that isn’t one of the 4 major dictators. Xi, Putin, Trump, or Netanyahu. Also allows the liberals to further balkanize into even smaller groups.
That’s funny, he also endorsed her candidacy.
It was that or trump lmao.
A bunch of his supporters seem to have wanted Trump then.
The fuck else were his options?
I don’t know, let’s ask all his idiot fanboys that refused to vote.
If Bernie didn’t do that it would have been a guarantee that Trump won. The DNC wasn’t going to run anyone else so that was the only thing he could do. I’m not saying I’d do it myself, personally, but I understand the position he found himself in.
As usual, nuance/context is a thing.
Brother trump did win and bernie is a dnc stooge
Nuance and context are completely absent
“guarantee that Trump won”
Words mean things. It was not guaranteed that Trump was going to win when he endorsed Harris.
I think he’s talking about 2016
Considering Bernie was more popular than Clinton, it was more likely Trump would win after he quit
Bernie’s not a stooge. He wanted the better side to win, even if it wasn’t him at the helm.
Reminds me of the people saying that if he didn’t let the DNC rig the primary against him in 2016 then Trump would have won.
Good thing that decision resulted in Trump not winning, right?
Trump beating Clinton doesn’t mean Sanders would have won. What a baseless argument.
And nothing was “rigged”. Stop being blue MAGA.
No, but his polling that was better than Clinton in red state supports the belief that he would have won.
Also, it was rigged, Bernie sued the DNC arguing that it was. The DNC pretty much admitted it as their defence:
“…the DNC and Wasserman Schultz have characterized the DNC charter’s promise of ‘impartiality and evenhandedness’ as a mere political promise—political rhetoric that is not enforceable in federal courts.”
And nothing was “rigged”. Stop being blue MAGA.
If you haven’t learned about this yet then now is the time
