• Eheran@lemmy.world
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    What do you mean, nonsense with no meaning? Millions are using it with fairly specific meaning.

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      Yeah. MAGA has always been a symbol of white supremacy. It has pretty specific meaning. The dude walked down the escalator and started calling Mexicans criminals and rapist. He said on a major TV network with half the world watching that immigrants are eating people’s pets.

      MAGA is white supremacy. MAGA is Nazi shit. Always has been.

      Dude said that immigrants are “poisoning the blood of our nation”.

      Might as well be saying the 14 words.

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      But it’s like calling someone’s class a DPS. It’s just… off. Even if everyone accepts “you’re a damage per second and I’m a healer.”

      “Make America Great Again is seething.” Uh huh.

      Everyone knows what these things mean. But we could have done better.

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      You and I might know it means the set of deplorables and their awful views on race and gender, but when they use that term, just what policies and principles do they want others to believe that “maga” stands for? I mean, it’s not 100% white people in the group calling themselves “maga”, so other than sucking up to Taco, what are the core principles that are the supposed cover story to pull in POC, women, LGBTQ and so on?

      Same goes for other terms they use that sound like baby talk…like “maha”. Just how do they plan on making people “healthy”? What metrics will they use? Does “healthy” include things like reversing the recent trends in maternal mortality? Or is it just about lining the pockets of Big Wellness for RFK? No, we just get baby talk like “maga” and “maha” and very little discussion about real goals, real metrics, etc…I’m just tired of all the baby talk that passes for real definitions of anything. Nailing down what any of “maga” and “maha” are supposed to stand for is like nailing jello to a tree. It’s like when Orwell talks about losing the language. This mostly passes without comment, too, by the way. We are just supposed to accept terms like this…

      When the likes of MTG claim they are the “real” maga, and those that don’t want to release the Epstein files are not, how can anyone really argue for either side, since “maga” means nothing at all other than loyalty to Taco, and the real meaning that most normal Americans know is behind “maga” (xenophobia, homophobia, misogyny, theocratic, etc.) doesn’t really enter into releasing information about pedos for or against. They are for it if they think it will mostly damage Democrats, but against releasing it if it would hurt Taco…

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        The MAGA people gave it their meaning. That is all that matters, even if we do not understand/share/know/… that meaning. What you said sounds like someone saying “x is not a real word”, completely ignoring that language constantly changes. I reply to you because you are not just wrong but also damaging. You have to acknowledge that they exist and really believe that stuff. It is not made up nonsense to them and as a result of their actions also not for anyone else. Ignoring them like that can only hurt us more.

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          I’m not saying to ignore them. I’m just saying more people should press them on just what “maga” means.

          As a for instance, does “maga” support or oppose tariffs in the amount and in the way that Taco is (illegally) doing them? Would that position be the same if it was anyone else other than Taco doing it?