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    A few people I work with are huge Trump fans and with the news of taking over Greenland they are fully onboard with it and have been trying to find racial slurs for Greenland people. These people are mentally unstable and need to be removed from society.

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      Look a lot of people online talk big game about how people should dump their partners or file labor abuses/lawsuits, etc. without any concept of what these things actually require from people. Chest pounding usually.

      However, if you actually have colleagues who are actively trying to drop slurs at work, you need to report that shit immediately.

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          No point in going all cloak and dagger about it. Just go straight to HR and report them. Make them decide if they want that liability. Let them ruin their own lives.

          This isn’t about revenge, this is about not having to work in a hostile work environment. This is about you and your sane colleagues not having to put up with this shit on top of the shit you have to deal with at work. I have zero tolerance for this kind of stuff. somebody says something fucked up at work, they usually get one polite warning from me that I don’t wanna hear it again. After that I let HR or upper level management deal with it.

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            Not every workplace has HR. And in many cases, the offender may be your superior.

            Cloak and dagger.

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              HR or upper management

              You always have a boss. If not, then you’re the person who has to deal with this directly. They never said it was a superior, so we should operate under the assumption they aren’t reporting to this person.

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        Agreed! Most if not everyone I’m working with is all talk and no action. For the most part I just quietly listen and laugh to myself. Let them have their own awareness of the situation when it’s far too late. Although I highly doubt they will ever become aware of how bad things are in this country.

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    What is that minimizing title? He’s talking about an invasion of conquest. Call it that.

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    Trump is rushing straight to Justice League without doing the world-building first. Not one single person in this country outside of Trump’s inner circle hates the Danes or Greenlanders (guess maybe they are still Danes?).

    You can’t just will a country to war. At least some people have to believe in the mission. And I’m betting Trump’s rural base could give an absolute fuck about Greenland. It’s not even like it’s a “DEI country,” the way Africa and the Middle East are.

    What in the fuck is he playing at?

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      he wants the country to be ‘at war’ so all those wartime laws that give him more power come into affect. he can lockdown the entire country and claim that when a democrat sneezes its a national security issue, and oh look at that, this ancient law says he can lock citizens up.

      that and he is a literal russian asset destabilizing the united states on behalf of putin.

      thats my guess.

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        Seems like he could do that way more easily on our Southern border.

        Send a helicopter to shoot at cartels near the border, wait until they finally shoot back. Send a mission deep into Mexico to attack the cartels and wait for the inevitable blow back.

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        Thats not a guess, thats a valid prediction based on the facts that we already know.

        I agree with your prediction 100%, and add to it: When HitlerPig starts his war, whether in Greenland, Canada, Mexico, Panama, etc., he will call for a draft. In the past, there were deferments for those in college, or with good political connections, and those will still be in effect, but with restrictions. If you have student loans, you will be eligible for the draft. Only college students who have the money to pay cash for their college education will be deferred. That way the rich kids get out of it, but the poor and middle class still go. Only Republican connections will count for deferments, and even then only those who make substantial campaign contributions.

        Anyone caught protesting will be drafted. Dissidents and critics will be drafted. Criminals will be drafted. Prisoners will be drafted. Age will not be a consideration, and you can be drafted even if you are retired. Basically, anyone they don’t like will be drafted.

        Of course, declaring a draft for a highly unpopular war will cause even more protests, where even more people can be detained and drafted.

        I will declare this right now: There is absolutely no way I will allow my son to be drafted to fight in a MAGA war, for any reason.

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          What you describe is the least effective army that can be assembled. Not saying they wouldn’t try, mind you… But that’s not a group you give guns and put into a battlefield.

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            Obviously, MAGA isn’t concerned with competence, just look at the people that they replaced competent leaders with.

            They wouldn’t care anyway. They are the types to just throw as many people at a front line as they can get. Kapo Stephen “PeeWee Himmler” Miller has said that he wants to reduce our population from 335 million, to 100 million rich white people. A war that kills millions of middle class/poor people plays right into that plan.

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        I agree with a lot of that, but Trump is such an idiot, I can’t imagine Putin would trust him enough to coordinate that closely. Maybe if it’s just sheer manipulation. This is the weirdest fucking timeline.

        I can’t fucking believe it. Trump is taking over DC police, preparing for the inevitable civil backlash. Are all of those assholes really going to fight for him?

        I legitimately have to worry that on my anniversary trip TSA is going to go through my phone and perhaps decide I’m a traitor for anti-Trump sentiment. I guess if I disappear in April and no one hears from me again you’ll know what happened.

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            Legit thinking about just leaving my phone home. My wife would have hers.

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          theyve spent decades building the propaganda machine for this purpose. control the narrative -> control the bootlickers… whats the rest of the population going to do? hold those signs up harder??

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      Greenland(and the Faroe Islands) are autonomous territories of Denmark. They function very similarly to US States. They have their own local governing bodies that deal with local matters but when it comes to foreign affairs, monetary policy and security they defer to the Danish Government in which they also have their own dedicated representatives.

      The people are full Danish citizens so they use a Danish passport but pretty much all of them will identify as Greenlander (or Faroese) first and as a Dane second.

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      My prediction is this is a build up to distract the EU when Putin does his summer offence. If the EU is worrying about Greenland they are less likely to help Ukraine. Plus it would allow RuZZia to do some heinous shit to Ukraine while the world is focused on Greenland. God I hope the EU gets its shit together. It is time to put a stop to Russia once and for all.

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      HitlerPig wants to quit NATO, amd form an alliance with Russia, China, and others. Both Russia and China have shown an interest in occupying Greenland. That allows them to have a base of power looming over Europe, and much closer to America.

      In 2019, Tom Cotton got a letter from a Danish foreign minister, claiming to represent a Greenland separatist movement, and asking for money to fund a referendum on Greenland independence. Cotton took the letter to HitlerPig, who skipped right over the fundraising part, and decided that we could buy Greenland, and he hasnt shut up about it since.

      In 2022, Danish intelligence determined the letter was a Russian forgery. The Russians sent the letter to Cotton because they knew he was stupid enough to not question its veracity, and woukd take it straight to HitlerPig. The Russians totally played both of those idiots.

      Still, knowing the letter was a forgery, they have decided that its still a good idea to take Greenland. Theyve already invented a lot of propaganda claiming that Greenlanders actually welcome America’s slavery, and these MAGA Morons always believe their own propaganda, so they are still in the hunt to buy, steal, or conquer Greenland.

      Russia and China would love to share Greenland with America, so they can threaten western Europe more effectively.

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    So he’s choosing WW3. If the US attacks Greenland, that is attacking Denmark which is attacking the EU, he’d start a war between allies in NATO. Denmark would cite article 5, it would be war between NATO countries and the US.

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      On paper yes, but the reality is that the rest of NATO will likely not react when faced with the prospect of having to fight America. Remember that There are 3-5 more countries with more nuclear weapons than the British and French. USA, Russia, China, and possibly India/Pakistan. … MAGA is playing footsies with Russia, NATO cant survive a war against Russia backed up by a hostile America. They’d call it a day and resign “leave europe alone or we’ll launch the nukes”. everyone outside of continental europe will be fucked, that means greenland, canada, mexico, etc.

      any “war” would be clandestine. Conventionally, NATO sans US would be able to handle Russia, but US and Russia both attacking NATO, NATO loses that scenario 10 out of 10. Right now, NATO is fucked if push comes to shove.

      While its been largely spent, Russia is in a war economy mode. they’ve already pulled the trigger and crossed the bridge on the whole “Sending hundreds of thousands to their deaths” step.

      America has a huge arsenal of ammunition , weapon systems, and logistics ready for war on short notice.

      NATO has neither of those things. They waited until Russia was already fully mobilized for war, and sat on their hands hoping Trump wasn’t going to be the sociopath that he is, They waited this long to finally start making preparations for the possibility of full scale war. In short, they are several steps behind and if the game starts for real, they are at an extreme disadvantage,

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      Hold your horses - NATO general secretary Mark Rütte has already said that he “wouldn’t want to drag NATO into all this”… 🙄

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        The position of NATO general secretary is irrelevant, the actual treaty is irrelevant, in the end military action is always a political choice of member states.

        The worrisome part of course is that Mark Rütte was leader of an EU country for 14 years. There are certain to be people loyal to the USA in EU politics and military after all those year of US alignment. Heck Russia has managed to buy a few EU politicians in a couple of decades.

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    Trump will encounter a home-grown resistance in the US if he wages war on NATO. It will start a civil war. MMW

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      The problem is that invoking the term “civil war” for the US calls on a historical image of two clear sides, or perhaps the very vague handwaving history of the recent movie of the same name. There might finally be some sort of civil unrest against the government in some ways, but it won’t be a Blue vs. Grey organized movement. More a fall into chaos where some places will go on as usual, while others might be a war zone type scenario caused by official lashing out at public actions. It’s unprecedented, like most of recent events, and unusual because of the size and makeup of the US itself. It won’t be like any other civil war.

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    Any American forces attacking Greenland are committing war crimes. If they listen to trump and go ahead with an attack the American military leaders of any rank will be guilty of war crimes. Let’s see how many generals and admirals are willing to quit sucking trump’s asshole and abide by the law.

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    Americans couldn’t vote for Kamala because she wouldn’t condemn Israel’s genocide

    Instead they ellected a war lord who will go to war with anyone for no reason

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    Aka WW3 with America vs The World is not off the table.

    If that happens, only American citizens will be able to stop it.

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      If that happens, only American citizens will be able to stop it.

      So we are all fucked then… Americans couldn’t be bother voting to prevent this

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        Probably.

        That said Trump is likely shooting his mouth off because it normalizes Putin’s actions in Ukraine. Or simply to weaken trust in the US and its alliances.

        I guess we’ll see in the long term.

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          I still don’t buy the idea there is method to this madness

          Trump is a spoiled brat who has shown no sign of intelligence. He is running America like he ran all his business which all went to the shitter. The fact he is not in jail and pennyless is a testament as to how terminal American capitalism is at this point

          If Trump wanted to do half the ulterior motives people assign to him, he is going about the worst possible way. He could to a ton more damage by not running his mouth 3/4 of the time

          IMO this is just a naked grift. He is treating other countries like he did his contractors and business partners, extorsion plus “if you don’t like, sue me” thinking most would not see the point. He is too stupid to realise countries are not struggling small business owners not willing to see years of litigation through

          Finally, he may love Putin but I no longer buy the idea Putin has something to blackmail Trump with… What could be released to turn the maga idiots at this point?

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            Good point about Putin and the kompromat, however to assume it’s Trump designing these plans is a bad move.

            Trump didn’t design Project 2025, but he’s followed much of it regardless. Trump is a salesman.

            Peter Thiel, Marc Andreesen, Sam Altman, lots of billionaires are invested in libertarian projects, cities, or fifedoms. Lots of them also fund, follow, or push the ideas of Curtis Yarvin about destroying democracy.

            So you’re right, it might not be Putin.

            That said Trump is a Narcissist, and narcissists do tend to care about how they’re perceived… Plus there are people like Victoria Spartz who are now in the Senate, but whom have ties to Russian interests.

            … it’s not always about the kompromat, it’s often just about how many ties around the individual (who have influence on their actions) also have interests in the direction pushed.

            https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Links_between_Trump_associates_and_Russian_officials

            https://swalwell.house.gov/issues/russia-trump-his-administration-s-ties

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      Its not just America.

      There’s an entire transnational criminal syndicate thats posing as, or otherwise taken control of multiple state governments. And America isn’t the only Nuclear Arsenal they’re in control of.