• electric_nan@lemmy.ml
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    5 days ago

    All this bullshit about this or that is officially dead or over in America… Democracy, the American Dream, leader of the free world etc. None of that shit was ever true. Yes, Trump is a particularly unvarnished avatar or the US, but stop pretending we were ever what the propaganda told us we were.

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      4 days ago

      The qons always wanted this, that much is true. And so they were always a dark undercurrent in America and often got their way.

      But the rest of us could at least work to aspire to higher ideals that America is supposed to represent. With the qons in charge now, they seem to have no real agenda other than make a bunch more money for the broligarchs and maximize unhappiness for everyone else - cruelty is the point.

      But that doesn’t mean America and Americans should not realize we used to do better and we should continue to aspire to be better. Saying “yeah, but America was always shit” is not only not really truthful (but I realize it is a fashionable thing to say with a certain set), it’s demoralizing.

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        4 days ago

        I think it is truthful, and it’s important to be honest about it-- not least if you genuinely want a way out of Trumpism. Pretending that the Democrats aren’t a big part of the story of how we got here is dangerous. We need to come to terms with our fundamental issues before we’re able to start moving in the right direction.