Is Biden compromised or something? He doesn’t seem to realize that his name is fucking poison to dems and reps alike. Why is he so intent on fucking us over more? You destroyed us. Fuck off.
No. Thanks for your service blah blah blah, but his generation of limp dick, self serving moldy dinner rolls are what got us here in the first place. Take Chuck and Hakeem with you
Oh Fuck Off you doddering old fool that gave us Trump.
Ah Americans blaming everyone but themselves who voted him in. Yes you might not have but as a whole the American people did or choose to sit out.
Fuck off, Joe. You’ve done enough damage. Go away.
The Bidens need to stay the fuck out. For good. You killed your own political dynasty, dipshit. Stay down.
Edit: Jesus fuck, what a complete tool:
Former President Joe Biden has told some Democratic leaders he’ll raise funds, campaign and do anything else necessary for Democrats to recover lost ground
Really? You’ll do anything to recover the ground YOU lost? Except keep your promise to not campaign for another term? Or listen to constituents instead of consultants? Or do anything meaningful to preemptively stop fascism? Or bow out of the presidential campaign when it becomes painfully obvious that you have neither the temperament or mental acuity for the situation at hand? Or relinquish control of a presidential campaign that isn’t yours anymore? Or-
You get the idea.
Stay down, Biden. Your “help” looks a whole fucking lot like leading lambs to the slaughter. Nobody wants you or your help.
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They’ll probably try Hillary again next
Pelosi for pres! Cause democrats! Ahhh we are so fucked…
Yes I heard he was Satan, and that’s the sole reason people voted for rampant fascism by a kleptocrat. All his fault.
Man he was such a good president, he did such great things that are helpful to the average american, like:
… … … …
Well he’s not Trump so that’s good enough for all the deaths from COVID, social murder, Mexican cages, Gaza, the trans healthcare crisis, abortion being made illegal, not arresting Trump so he’s back in office…
Trump is so awful the bar is in hell, walking on the bottom of the ocean floor is better but not great.
what about chips act?
what about inflation reduction act?
you really can’t name anything positive biden did?
He actually did do a bunch of good things. The reason you can’t name them is b/c Ds never talked about it. Probably some dumb reason like “results will speak for themselves”
You people really need to go and build a third party, one that actually is everything the republicans accuse the democrats of being.
No. Please enjoy your retirement.
Yeah, no. Your career ended during the debate.
I’d argue his career ended when he decided that genocide was wonderful
So the 80s?
His Super predators speech in 1994. I don’t much before that.
There is no genocide
The entire DNC
“One term.”
It physically hurts me to think about the number of times here, on this platform, people tried to gaslight us on this.
First it never happened.
Then, when we showed them the interview where he said it, we were told it was just “misconstruing” what Biden said.
Then, it wasn’t a campaign promise.
Then, when in 2024 when Biden confirmed it was a campaign promise, it didn’t matter, because “beating Trump” was too important; but if “beating Trump” was so important, then why were they insisting on sticking with Biden?
I just. Sometimes I can’t even.
That didn’t happen. And if it did, it wasn’t that bad. And if it was, that’s not a big deal. And if it is, that’s not my fault. And if it was, I didn’t mean it. And if I did, you deserved it.
The party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command. His heart sank as he thought of the enormous power arrayed against him, the ease with which any Party intellectual would overthrow him in debate, the subtle arguments which he would not be able to understand, much less answer. And yet he was in the right! They were wrong and he was right.
It sucks that the Democrats are the Republican party of 2012.
And Democrats will soon be the Republican Party of 2016.
Already are in a lot of aspects.
He’s likely not even aware that he was president.
This is all your fault. Go to the nursing home and stay there.
The only way he could help is if he invented a time machine and went back in time to convince himself to announce he isn’t going to pursue a second term in 2022. Or immediately stop supplying Israel with bombs after it became clear they weren’t going to stop. Or better yet, go back to 2020 and don’t screw Bernie out of winning the nomination. Selfish prick.
What I would give for some actual leftists who are tough.
We need a younger bernie who is more aggressive. Shut the fuck up about woke and LGBT stuff. Speak only about how billionaires and corporations and wall street are exploiting the poor and working class.
Tax the billionaires. Support the Working class. Accountability for the rich. No more of this laws are only for the poor nonsense.
Free Healthcare. Free college/university. Free meals for kids in schools. Fund our fucking public schools. Make the rich pay for it or they can get the fuck out.
Shut the fuck up about woke and LGBT stuff.
So win by throwing the rights of the queer community and minorities to the dogs?
I understand your frustration here. You and the minority communities do matter! With that said, the only way for you to have recognition and equality is to overthrow those in power. Those in power use you and other minorities as sock puppets pandering to wedge issues. While wedge issues are important to you and I, they are meaningless to those that use them to divided us.
If you let them keep using you as their wedge issue you can expect nothing but quarter measures and lip service in return. They need you to be that wedge issue to continue their robbery. You are being used, and as long as your useful nothing will materially change for you. You will be pulled left to right with every administration shift, never getting anything you need and deserve.
What matters to those in power is money. That’s it. Right and left alike. Nothing else! Not you or any minority or what you/they/I care about will change while these kinds of people are in power.
I’m not saying to put your priorities on the back burner. I’m saying we have to come together to burn the fascists down to get what we want together. Money out of politics is the only avenue for any change. That might have to be the only priority for a moment til we have a functioning government that has the power to actually change all our lives for the better.
That might have to be the only priority for a moment til we have a functioning government that has the power to actually change all our lives for the better.
That got us Hillary instead of Bernie, then Biden instead of Bernie. And this thinking exactly perpetuates the ratchet effect. We always have to win just a little harder, then we can change what matters. THAT is what got us here.
I am NOT queer, nor a minority. I’m among the very last group of people that will be sent to the camps. But my values don’t require me to be personally affected to stand firm by my fellow humans.
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But if I were a member of one of those groups, I’d probably be pretty upset that you are telling me I should treat my very existence as a “wedge issue” to be avoided. I won’t go further for fear of putting words in someone’s mouth.
That a bit crazy, they are wedge issues. The consultants red and blue have defined them so…
The left and the right pay consulting firms hundreds of millions to devise ways to create/use these “wedge issues” to divide us. That’s the game. Keep you fighting over these issues and never doing anything meaningful to change things. Puppets and pawns.
The only game that will ever make any meaningful change is the money game! That’s the only game that matters to them and the only one we need to win for all the wedge issues to be treated as real life issues.
We cannot have a functional democracy any other way. It is the only issue that will be able to bring about any meaningful change.
Don’t let these think tanks divide and blind you or you risk just being the latest fad en vogue “wedge issue” political prop. Doomed to be used till your usefulness runs its course and they latch on the next whilst you get nothing in return. That’s the plan all along.
I absolutely stand by the lgbt peoples as I stand by the others marginalized by society. What I’m saying was pretty fucking clear! If you want real lasting change there is only one real issue that matters. We have to break the money system. Or else nothing changes ever!
What got us Hillary not Bernie was the DNC, the same people that use the marginalized as props for political gain. People should have figured that out by now, if they are paying attention. The neoliberal right wing democrats! They own the DNC! They despise their own constituency. They loathe anyone that challenge their money making machine.
Shut the fuck up about woke and LGBT stuff.
No, I want people who are louder about woke and LGBTQ stuff while holding billionaire’s and corpo feet to the fire.
Then we will lose.
The immigrant and LGBT stuff just gets bigots more energized to vote and fight. That is their tactic and they’re winning.
The conservatives are gaining power and enacting policies to entrench power. Destruction of education means less educated, therefore more ignorance and bigotry. Easy to manipulate.
Progressives need to win first, get power, then enact policy changes. Protections and support for minorities only comes when we have the power to enact such policies.
Keep amplifying the LGBT and immigrant stuff, bigots will keep voting for the cons. They’re winning.
Maybe, if we amplify how they’re being ripped off and manipulated by billionaires, we might gain some non-zero support.
Your opinion is garbage. Support for LGBTQ+ rights didn’t alienate anyone who wasn’t already a garbage person.
Not garbage, and not opinion. Objective fact.
It’s people like you why bigots are winning and trump got elected.
Because of you, you’re extraordinary stupidity, we are sliding into fascism. If you don’t pull your head out of your ass, we’re doomed.
People who want to live their lives and be left alone lost the election? Oh this is going to be good.
The floor is yours.
Present your objective fact.
LGBT, woke, and immigrant issues are amplified by those in power to get more votes on the right, and distract from the most important issues: oligarchy and wealthy elites who are exploiting the poor and working class.
This doesn’t mean these issues aren’t important, they are. They’re just used to distract from what’s more important, and energize bigots who end up supporting the right.
Objective fact.
ITT thread - lots of folks downvoting the folks rightly condemning Biden, but strangely no one showing up to debate them. 🤔
Because they know their one tactic is “But Trump is worse” when a moldy ham sandwich is better than Trump in office. Congrats, the bar is low enough to let an old racist bastard in office!
Downvotes are what we get for asking for proof they are trying to do something good that will actually help, or ask for sources to claims.
I hate when someone gets downvoted for asking for a citation. Republican thoughtcrime bullshit.
Holy shit! He’s still alive?
Feinstein kept going years after her death.
